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. >> gavin: what about gay marriage. there are some final counts in washington state but the three states--two states affirmative and the one that pulled back in minnesota some draconian legislation. what is your sense of that. you were in the thick of it, this was toxic even within our own party. >> look, you have been one of the singular leaders on this and demonstrated courage on this issue, so i imagine for someone like yourself this is great to see. >> i'm not going to deny that. >> as i said it's always to be at the right time of history and to be there early. >> sometimes it's the wrong time time. >> it's never the wrong time to be on the right side of history. it takes guts and courage. on a purely political level. here is another issue. as the population grows and new people come in the electorate, this is an issue where people have a positive view. gay marriage should be legalized. it's the first of 32 efforts maine had it beaten in the past. washington state again with the votes to be counted. >> gavin: maryland. >> tipping-point moments. the republicans, there was a great 40-
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